Please tell me I'm not the only one who viewed the ending as an open-ended one! I only read the first two parts at least thats what was there when i started reading it. It helps to know that I am not the only one who struggled live watching two sageuks at the same time. The old grey mare ain't what she used to be. If you want to tell a story about a Clown being King, do NOT make that ENTIRE premise hinge on a single character and then treat him as a plot device! A) Ha Seon gives up the throne. Like I said, it's a fairly good and fairly solid Sageuk, preserving at least the "vibe" you expect from a Sageuk. He didnt die for any plot related reasons. I think it should have ended as Ha Sun walked out of the palace. Minister Shin takes advantage of the confusion to try to sneak Prince Jin-pyung out of the palace, but theyre stopped at the gates. If it was a challenge to my Sageuk Sages @kiara and @pakalanapikake then this sageuk punk is in good company. Im glad it was 16 episodes. But overall i really had fun and thrill watching it. Thank you for the suggestion, @marcusnyc20, I will try Haechi in the future :), Congrats on your 1st Sageuk! I enjoy things I also think are objectively bad. And even I would be interested, and was interested, in seeing what this story looks like. Hopefully you will and i would watch it definitely. The Clown cannot be King if there is no pre-existing King for him to pretend to be. Loved loved loved this drama till the ending Monk Jung Saeng agrees that Minister Lee wouldnt want them to die for nothing. Very sad but thoroughly enjoyed the series. I'm totally mystified over how Ha Sun survived two arrows in the back (let alone managed to extract them by himself). xfbml : true, // parse social plugins on this page This is not his fault; he is not a real person. Sheesh. As an audience, it was too easy to see these things in modern-day context instead of the context of the time period, where often, getting rid of someone, though a heinous choice, was often the only choice to protect the power of the throne (and thus the people). (Translation: It takes more energy and attention than I can muster at the time.) Because the show you THOUGHT you were getting, the doppelganger plot with the tension and juxtaposition created by that, is actually a different show altogether. (Cases in point: TEMPERATURE OF LOVE and BECAUSE THIS LIFE IS OUR FIRST. Even if they didn't want a predictable ending of "yayy happily ever after", they could have done it like this: Officer Jang and the King are attacked and badly injured. So many relationships were built up during the tumultuous happenings just to do this :/. She walks out of the village and into a field to think, carrying one of her wishing hazelnuts with her. I was also wishing and hoping to get more of Yi Heon's pre-addiction backstory. But from what I gather, they didn't. The Crowned Clown (2019) - Recommendations - MyDramaList The Crowned Clown (2019) Details Episode Guide Cast & Crew Reviews Recommendations Photos Edit this Page Make a Recommendation 8.8 The Red Sleeve (2021) Lee Se Young is the main Female Lead in both dramas Somewhat similar vibes but are pretty different plot-wise. The two could have wandered the country checking that new reforms were taking place. Rather i think its because its extremely rare (almost impossible) to find a doppelganger who matches you in everyway to the extent that you are even able fool most intimate people like wives, closest servants etc. And I loved the drums. The survival of the great majority allows everything? Did you read my essay? But if its boring, nvm. As is so aptly stated in NIRVANA IN FIRE, Time flows like water, and what has gone cannot come again. Give it a rest, Pakalana. Dont base it on a doppelganger trope at all if youre going to do that! It can be a pretty bad thing. I was sure there would be a flashbacks putting thing in context. He reminds her that he made her promise never to harm herself, and says that hes returning the knife only so she can protect herself, but she says that she intends to keep her word. Poop smell can change for illnesses as well haha. Sorry for the late reply! And his relationship with So-woon was already really nuanced and had great potential for a very unique romance in which So-woon would be the only person who had power over him. I just discovered in Merriam-Webster that the oft used kdrama translated word punk is a synonym for beginner!) Yeo Jin-gu was also just so much better and fresher as Yi Heon in every way. He is important. (Lol. And it becomes very boring to watch. [ENG SUB] Lee Se Young interviews Yeo Jin Goo for Cosmopolitan KoreaPart 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJovfWJncToPart 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=. However, the clown is a dual symbol. My take on the ending was that he was nursed back to health though we dont know how and who took care of him. What type of clown is Pennywise? Minister Lee didn't see himself as a hero but more like a tool for his country not good or bad but useful. People who watch sageuks want historically acurrate stories, right? He looked excellent. I was perfectly okay with the ending. It was a peculiar incident. Again, why? Like everyone else I feel the end was rushed and not thought out. And your flimsy attempts at trying to justify this by saying that Ha Seon was better than Yi Heon and would never succumb to what Yi Heon did, mean nothing if you refuse to develop Yi Heon as a character! Nothing like watching our protagonist send off his master in the most glorious way to jerk some priceless tears. It was a suitably heroic end for a loyal bodyguard. It's simply epic! The internal and external forces driving a wedge between the monarchy and its people seemed overwhelming, and someone with a weak resolve . A pathetic attempt at last minute drama for characters I no longer care about and a plot that I think is fundamentally flawed only solidifies my opinion that this drama is written stupidly, and badly. The queen dowager snarls that he promised to confess, realizing that this is a trap. Was she too pure to have sex? One of these days I intend to watch SHIN DON, which may overlap with JEONG DO JEON. I learned a LOT back then. Voc sabe quem mandou matar o Ha Seon no final da srie? The drama version had put their own spin on it. But the Clown woke him up and he realized he could do good for korean people. Why stop there? Por que eu achei que todos os inimigos estavam mortos. Rumors say there was a clown with the face of the king, and that he was alive, but none of them was revealed to be true. Once again sweeping this fact under the rug. var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; I just wanted the man to be happy. (function(d, s, id) { Gap-soo and Dal-lae have rejoined their clown troupe. Great points. I also do not agree with the author of the recap -- that protecting the power of the king is protecting the people. It made Ha Sun sound like the Winter General's bartender sister in HWAYUGI. EPISODE 16 RECAP It was pretty good Korean Soap Opera but so much tragedy and I did want Haskan to have survived for his happy ending but not to be. And clothes? You're a neophyte. As for the cast, so many lovely talents and wonderful performances (my favorites being Jang Gwang, Jang Young-nam, and Kim Sang-kyung because I'm biased). At night, So-woon holds Ha Suns compass, remembering two years ago when a pair of palace guards delivered the news that they believed Ha Sun was dead. It kept me Interested. So what happens, when you kill him, and, moral implications aside, there are no consequences to this, is that your plot doesnt frakking make sense. I liked seeing the leads, the romance was sweet to the point of unbelievable, but what the heck. The acting was superb, the scenery was beautiful and the story was different from its source material. You dont get a medic so learn your own first-aid. Minister Lee was doing it to create a better world, and he never denied that what he was doing was wrong he accepted that he would be punished, but he was willing to sacrifice himself for his country. How did he suddenly appear by chance in that deserted field? Give me a break. He falls to the ground, and although Moo-young tries to hold Ha Sun back, he breaks away and runs to cradle Minister Lees head in his arms. I found the ending a little stretched don't get me wrong, I always want happy endings and in this case a life as commoners for Ha-Seon and the Queen, but it seemed to me that the story was wrapped up that way to create suspense about Ha-Seon fate (and, I think, to give us assurance that his life will be safe in the future). I hope you get to see many many wonderful sageuks in the future!, Thank you very much, @peony!!! But thank goodness after 2 long and nobody changing years, the Clown has miraculously woken from coma. And I absolutely loved the ending, with Ha Sun abdicating the throne, because Ive never felt okay with the idea of his keeping it when it really never belonged to him. I too loved MLSHR, BUT I enjoyed it WHILE knowing and recognising its flaws. 1. Even jin pyong and dowager queen found it out in the last minute and the whole thing happened within 3, 4 months. I can believe lots of things, like time travel, zombies or moving with one suitcase, but not having scouts when you know the other side is expecting reinforcements is so absurd it's offensive. I don't hate it, just think that the ending could have been better executed. For all the aforementioned reasons. It wasnt explicitly said, but I believe that once he had gotten revenge on Minister Shin and the queen dowager, he realized that hed been using the throne for his own personal reasons and thats why he abdicated to someone who could truly put the country first. But still if you look exactly like the king and sitting on the throne no one would dare to question you, unless you are bold like shin and he knew what he was talking about. Thats not all though as we soon find out. But he did not return right away because he wanted to make it appear to the people that the real King was in fact assasinated and waited two years before he surfaced as Ha-seon, a clown surfaced that closely resembles the dead king. After 15 episodes of drama, tension and romance we finally reach the conclusive chapter to this historical Korean show. That was during my first DB live-watch, OH HAE-YOUNG AGAIN, which got into some trippy metaphysics. It was not possible for me to juggle three sageuks. The Crowned Clown 2019 | Maturity Rating: TV-14 | 1 Season | Period Pieces Standing in for an unhinged Joseon king, a look-alike clown plays the part but increasingly becomes devoted to protecting the throne and the people. Did he not know that one was a royal twin (considered bad luck?) Why not start writing? He gives her a gift the knife that she almost used to take her own life when they first met. Likewho took care of him? So it was @sicarius who broke it. And Ill always be confused why the queen dowager knew that Ha Sun was an impostor, but she spoke to him as if he were Yi Heon (saying that he killed Prince Yul and stole the throne), when she had the chance to out him to the entire court. Yes @kiara. But i don't think thats what happened. They want to show his loyalty via his death ? Ha Sun watches, horrified, as Minister Lee grabs a sword from a guard and runs Prince Jin-pyung through, taking several sword wounds in the back himself. Im glad that some other comments mentioned it here. So-woon sits quietly in Ha Suns rooms while he mulls over everything thats happened. In addition, hell kill Minister Shin and Prince Jin-pyung for what happened at the assembly. He only existed to play the King and become the King, at the expense of the King. In the drama the writers won't be able to keep the clown on the throne in the end or they'll have to deal with some angry Korean viewers. Dont base it on a doppelganger trope at all if youre going to do that! He begs Ha Sun to let him send Minister Lee to his people, but Moo-young warns Ha Sun that opening the gates right now is too dangerous with the rebels right outside. And how exactly was she able to leave the palace and not return to her family home or hie herself to a nunnery as she had told Daebi that she would do? Starring Yeo Jin-goo, Lee Se-young, Kim Sang-kyung Genres Historical, Romance Subtitles English, Deutsch [automatisch], more, , , , , , , , , , , , Audio languages Watch for $0.00 with Prime Watch with Prime // Load the SDK asynchronously Absolutely no repercussions, to the King even existing, let alone the Clown taking the throne and the King dying. From shock and tension through to sadness and bittersweet goodbyes, this 75 minute episode encapsulated everything I've loved about this show since I begun covering it 2 months ago. Better late than never is the best I can do these days. Gone. The doppelganger part. Find Dal Rae? She cracks it and makes a wish, but when she opens her eyes, shes still alone. The goodbye scene to Eunuch Jo sniff so beautiful so sad. Or change the writer. I'm glad I tuned in. On the latest episode of the tvN drama "The Crowned Clown", the fight for authority over Joseon continued, but not without a little romance thrown in between the battles.. Ha Seon (Yeo Jin-goo) promised Yoo So-woon (Lee Se-young) forever love asked asked her to see the flowers in spring, the ocean in the summer, and harvest in the fall.Ha Seon explained the meaning of the tree of love and put . Sicarius' point is that the doppelgnger plot became irrelevant once they killed off one of the doppelgngers and so the central source of conflict - the fact that the Clown was an imposter- was removed. Two years pass by and we see So Woon a broken shell of the woman she once was. What happens upon the family's arrival? Because they do make sense. Me, too. The episode ends with a long anticipated reunion and one final glimpse of the sunset. For me the biggest issue wasnt necessarily killing the king off in and of itself (although I do agree that things could have been so much more interesting with more interaction between him and Ha Seon). I was relieved that he survived the rebellion, and presumably will serve the new king for years to come. Because there were no consequences for the King as a pre-existing character. That scenario would have created a lot of edge, suspense and sadness without killing a character for clout. No man can serve two masters. I was expecting more repercussions and a deeper analysis into these morally grey characters, but their actions, especially the murder of Yi Heon, were brushed over in simple strokes, diminishing the weight and impact of these moments. I can't handle 2 or more at a time and it makes me sad when they compete for the ratings. The basis of him getting on the throne was not exactly morally right anyway. Maybe some beanies can take a shot at that. Royalty? 3.2/4 LOL! Unnecessary death of the officer. Like you, I'm only live-watching one drama at present, having dropped both TRAP and ITEM. But i liked the way things happened in this drama as well. Meanwhile Ha Sun is torn after receiving an urgent letter regarding troops on the Frontier. var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js"; The point I was trying to make in this essay, is that I think The Crowned Clown has objectively bad writing flaws- namely Yi Heon is an example of bad character writing, whether he dies or not (@leetennant) Why kill officer Jang So random. He reminds us that to be a man is to make mistakes, to laugh and fool around. And I'm not alone, for Beans of Wisdom threads can prove you that. But this show decided to ignore one crucial part of this premise. It showed his relationships. Thank you, Peony, I'll give a look if I have time. In the courtyard, she never loses her hostile pride as she drinks the poison and succumbs to its effects. Minister Shin orders his men after him, but the instant Ha Sun is through the gate it slams shut, cutting him off from his soldiers. If MLDBC is consistent, I could try it. And he shouldve been. Yi Heon and his contradictions with Ha Sun was truly the only reason why I was intrigued by TCC in the first place. As soon as its done, a weight seems to lift from his shoulders. This probably means I have to watch "Vincenzo" to find out what Kim Hee-won's visual style is.) Do not base it on a doppelganger trope, only to IGNORE the implications and potential and importance of that doppelganger trope. Please enter your username or email address. What, he doesnt get to benefit from the magic two year time leap ? What? No one would let a lowborn guy like him to rule if he was not able to fool everyone to think he is the king. . In the summer of 1997, Diana did take her. Yay for Jung Il-woo and the Good Guys. Then the death of Officer Jang and the unnecessary pain the Queen had to go through while grieving for Hasun. A few final thoughts: In the end, she didn't even feel part of the family; she wasn't welcome. I neglected to state that Jin-goo's performances were great, and that Kim Sang-kyung is a new favorite. I loved the show but we need to know How he survived. Its just as J Star said: Unanswered questions. It was unconvincing. Since Writer-nim didn't bother to reveal who patched up Ha Sun and kept him safe while he recovered, I'll fill in the blanks by assuming that he somehow ended up in the care of Doctor Monk. Prolly will make the beeeest drama with 0 plotholes and AMAZING storyline. He doesnt have long to ponder it though as Sin Chi Soo makes his move and, along with a handful of rebels, storms the palace in a bid to take him out of the loop once and for all. Its based on Ha Suns name, which means summer fairy, and Eunuch Jo says it perfectly suits him because hes like the summer sun that shines equally over everyone. Thank you so much for taking the time to make these recaps. I dont feel that it did as good of a job as it could have in explaining why Minister Lee killed Prince Yul for Yi Heon, or framing his poisoning of Yi Heon as something he was doing for the country, even though it personally hurt him to do it. What do you think is better? However, they should have shown the Queen passing on so that Ho-Sun could have been stated met her in the afterlife. In the morning So-woon decides to go for a walk, and as she strolls, she recalls the intimate moments she spent with Ha Sun and the promises he made to always be with her. }(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); Please enter your username or email address. And some shows just seem to have an initial hump that I have to get over before they draw me in but then from there on out it's smooth sailing. This is a Absurd. That relationship? All she got in return was a bitter forced suicide she was so misunderstood. The part that pleased me was when he went to the first tournament and how cleverly he won during archery, or with the dog having that tiger cloth near his hand to confuse the dogs. The whole idea was for the clown to step in temporarily because they are bound by the custom and rules of that time period. I give the story, props and acting 9/10 and Haksun (Chief Secretary) could get an 11/10 for his acting alone. On his way to meet up with So-woon, Ha Sun senses someone behind him and whirls but whew, its only Moo-young. FB.init({ And if there is a pre-existing King for him to be then who that king IS (or was) is very, very important. And that there was a happy ending, of course! The soundtrack and instrumental music was lovely, and enhanced the action. Why even give us Yi Heon as a character with a backstory to begin with if youre just going to do that to him. The Interest Of Love Episode 16 Recap, Review & Ending Explained, Crash Course in Romance Episode 9 Recap & Review, Click Here To Read Our Full Season Write Up And Final Score. Required fields are marked *. The transition is close. And thats really poor writing. I have no qualms about it. But that's not what Sicarius' point is. Unmoved by her tirade, Ha Sun says calmly that hell endure the results of his own sins, and she should do the same. The ending of The Crown season 5 centers on Queen Elizabeth II's (Imelda Staunton) dramatic feelings of obsolescence while Prince Charles (Dominic West) fruitlessly campaigns for greater stature as the future King and the tragic fate of Princess Diana (Elizabeth Debicki) hangs in the air. He existed as a fully fledged character. Lets break this down. And . Minister Lee. I also accepted, that the king had to be eliminated for the greater good. All seems well and as Officer Jang vows to stand by Ha Suns side no matter what, assassins appear to avenge Queen Dowager resulting in both Officer Jang and Ha Sun suffering a terrible fate. window.fbAsyncInit = function() { N.B. Keith Bernstein/Netflix. I dont understand why the Queen couldnt have children?!?! Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, :) And even that wouldn't have happened if Lee Jun-ki wasn't leading the drama basically single-handedly! It was cleverly placed so he wouldnt appear foolish but experienced in many avenues of sports which pleased me very much. It's a pity at that time I wasn't on DB, it sounds a so fun experience! Minister Lees body is taken into the palace, where Ho-geol sobs over him. ;-). 4 Recommended by Shawarma Anyway since i have heard of this king and his door keeper story since childhood the concept wasn't that new to me. Stars Yeo Jin-gu Se-yeong Lee Kim Sang-kyung See production, box office & company info Watch on Prime Video Working myself into a lather wasn't good for me. I've seen a lot of fictional sageuks but they all stuck with their time period. Ha Sun meets with some young scholars, who have compiled Exemplar of Korean Medicine. Ha Sun wants to publish a version for the people to read, but the scholars argue that the people dont deserve it. He had no backstory. His death scene was really great. :). The show had its flaws, as they all do. Clan power? It showed his past. Because, honestly, he had so many enemies while he ruled. I expected a pair of little ones running in the yard! I was caught up in some work! It was quite unpredictable and almost each episode ended with a cliffhanger . Thanks s lot for this essay! And all conflict and tension that should exist because of a Clown being a fake King on a throne and surrounded by people that want to kill him, goes away. 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